Alex Jones – the banking scam and FDRS

Jason submitted this comment and I consider it important enough to repost it in a new entry:
I have just had to admit to myself that FDRS must be a scam of some kind. It’s either an outright, boldfaced scam designed from the start to fool desperate, drowning people OR it was originally a sound concept that failed to live up to its promises when it met too many obstacles to run successfully and then, under pressure, sank to the level of lying and deception to try staying afloat. I haven’t figured out which is true yet, but either way they’re bad news.
I started FDRS in the summer of ‘07 to deal with roughly 30K of credit card debt on four different credit cards. I faxed all correspondence to them in a timely fashion. I was eventually sued by Discover over a 12K balance. FDRS’s lawyer network, known as CCDN, gave me the paperwork to file in the lawsuit, but they failed to provide the response to their request for discovery and the deadline passed. When I faxed the motion for judgment paperwork to them, they claimed the judgment was premature and THEN they finally sent me the response to the request for discovery that I was supposed to have filed before but it must have been too late. I sensed incompetence then but didn’t lose faith yet. Of course, I lost!  Eventually, the court allowed Discover to clean out my checking and savings accounts for all I had, roughly 7.5K (of the 12K sued for). There has since been another court document looking for the rest. Then an interesting thing happened. My automatic monthly payment to FDRS didn’t post one month. When I called FDRS I was told they stopped taking any more payments from me because I was sued and wouldn’t take my final two payments until their lawyers got me my 7.5K back.
I am a firm believer of truth and the search for it. Thanks mostly to Alex Jones, I know about the conspiracies in the government, the banking industries, etc. and I believe they’re all facts documented in one way or another. So the FDRS concept along with their attempts to teach the truth about a lot of things through their wonderfully informative website, their recent weekly emails teaching the truth about the Federal Reserve, and even the free DVDs they mail out to their clients every month or so has me very confused on what’s really going on here!
If FDRS is just one of those premeditated ‘prey on the gullible’ and ‘kick ‘em while they’re down’ type scams, then why do they bother mailing out DVDs, emailing out teaching, etc.? Wouldn’t these expenses be anti-productive to their scam? Do you see why I wonder if maybe the truth about FDRS is somewhere in between a total, blatant scam and a legitimate service based on truth?
Is the concept of contesting the legality of the credit card ‘loans’ a legitimate thing and FDRS is just not following through? Or is the whole legality issue a scam to begin with? I’m no lawyer, but I still see truth behind the concept. It just seems that FDRS has failed to deliver on their promises.
I’m interested in conversation and debate about all of this, but keep in mind that mere unsubstantiated opinions will be taken with a grain of salt.
Jason, you’re an INTELLIGENT person, as evidenced by your comprehensive post with spelling and grammar in the top 1%.  I get MANY mails and comments and rarely one as well written as yours.
So I’m just totally floored that you would ask this question:
If FDRS is just one of those premeditated ‘prey on the gullible’ and ‘kick ‘em while they’re down’ type scams, then why do they bother mailing out DVDs, emailing out teaching, etc.?
Don’t you realize that they send this crap because that’s why so many people (like you) continue to send them their money?
Alex Jones would talk to you about fluoride, breast feeding and drinking Kool-aid.   Can’t you do simple math?  The cost of the mailing is about $2?   I don’t know what the average payment is, but I’m guessing they’ll get about $400 in return.
MOST people figure out that it’s a scam after after a few payments. 
That’s why the FIRST TWO payments are so LARGE. DUH!
And a few things about Alex Jones:
  • He has guts.

He has a family to worry about, but of course he has plenty of money for security, guns and a nice house.  He got that money from suckers like you.

  • He is as corrupt as anyone.

Just like the NWO, he instills FEAR and demands MONEY to SAVE you.   Don’t you see that new carbon taxes will save the planet just like your support of Alex Jones? :)   There is NO difference! 

Just about everything Alex accuses the government and the NWO of doing he does himself!  The constant deception, fear mongering, the truth mixed with half truths and outright LIES to deceive people like you.

I could spend at least 20/hrs a week documenting and exposing his lies.  FRDS was one, I finally got his buddy and gold scammer Ted Anderson from GCN to stop advertising FDRS and they IMMEDIATELY went to advertising the next scam! 

FDRS, Debt Crisis Solutions, Integrity Debt Relief Group, ….  they’re ALL scams!  Endorsed by Alex Jones and Ted Anderson so that THEY can make a KILLING!

Since I’m not corrupt like Alex Jones and Ted Anderson, I can’t afford to continually document that their advertisements are scams.  That’s especially so since NOBODY has donated as much as 1 cent.  All I get out of this is UNPAID WORK.

So I’ve moved on to expose some other Alex Jones scams, such as the BS solar backup generator.  FDRS only rips people off.  This “generator” can kill people.  I’m glad to be able to show readers how to get a FUNCTIONING off grid system at a much lower cost.  Alex’s PERSONAL endorsement of that fraud is 200% proof of his corruption.

Final thought on Alex Jones: 

Considering that he COULD do his show and websites from ANYWHERE, why is he not at all worried about the safety of his wife and kids and why is he staying in VERY expense Austin? 

Could it be that Alex Jones knows that he has nothing to worry about because he is NOT a threat to the NWO, the government, the bankers and big corporations and that he is in fact helping to dumb people down, to buy “generators” that will never do what he promises, to buy overpriced efoods direct food and to pay for financial services that destroy his listeners’ lives?

I’m interested in conversation and debate about all of this, but keep in mind that mere unsubstantiated opinions will be taken with a grain of salt.

Well, Jason, I’m not interested in conversation and opinion, I’ve wasted enough time on FDRS.  How about some FACTS?
If you post your Discover suit filings we can discuss the legal issues and what went down in court. 
And what’s really going on?
  • Why didn’t you name FDRS in the Discover lawsuit?
  • Why didn’t you report CCDN to the Bar Association in your state?
  • Why didn’t you sue them?
  • Did you file your complaint with the Cal. AG?
  • How did you get to be so rich that having your bank account cleaned out by Discover doesn’t bother you enough to DO something about it?
It blows my mind to see FDRS and CCDN get away with this scam and nobody is doing anything about it.
If I had just ONE wish, I think I’d want everybody to have a BS detector.  
THAT would change the world!

4 Responses to “Alex Jones – the banking scam and FDRS”


  1. 1 RDT

    Well….I think Jason is being open minded. And we all watch television programs that advertise things that may or may not be legitimate…even though i think Alex jones show is greatly informative and those who think otherwise must be blind or working for the NWO. I listen to Alex Jones regularly, but i still check out the advertisements and make my own decisions about their products… i think that is “our” responsibility not his, and maybe he does have a nice house and whatever…the guy has done a lot of work (research) over the years, i think he’s earned it…and has brought us a LOT of info that we would not otherwise have. And maybe, just maybe they are not scams but certain people want us to think they are….Anyway, i will check this out for myself. BS detector would be nice.

  2. 2 Peter L Lago

    I am an attorney. One of my clients seems to have been scammed by FDRS. Are there any of you out there willing to be witnesses as to FDRS’ methods and tactics? Contact me at [3/24/10: email REMOVED as he ignored my email and is apparently another scum sucking bottom feeding liar abusing my sites for some lucrative cream skimming] Thanks.
    Peter L. Lago, Attorney, Downey, CA

  3. 3 Lucille Femine

    I was one of the fools who fell for FDRS. I can’t reach them now except by email and they won’t answer. I’m trying to stop their payments – the last one was 3/11/10, that should be the last one. But I don’t know if they’ll continue to take my money since they don’t answer me. How can I sue them?

  4. 4 Christine

    How about reading the posts here?

    How about following the links to the NEW FDRS blog?

    Someone recently posted that their bank got ALL their payments refunded.

    BTW, attorney Peter Lago who posted above is another moron — didn’t even return my email.

    Apparently he’s only cream skimming for a few individuals desperate enough to cough up a few thousand dollars for Mr. Lago.

    Stay away from him!

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