I posted one of the Debt Crisis Solutions radio commercials on the Alex Jones show:
It’s the EXACT same scam as FDRS. Ted Anderson is such a scumbag and Alex Jones is right there with him.
And what happened to FDRS.org?
It has been reduced to affiliate and member logins. I don’t understand why the site is still live, is the AG ever going to shut them down?
Debt Crisis Solutions is not connected with FDRS. This scam, FDRS, has been illegally selling plagiarized versions of John Gliha’s copyrighted and trademarked work, Winning the Collection Game and Zero Debt in 90 Days. Gliha has personally been assisting victims of FDRS and in many cases, has not charged any money. Gliha is very glad to see they are finally out of business.
Please retract your statements as they are mistaken, defamatory and the information you have published has created a personal security risk for the owners of Debt Crisis Solutions, an authorized agent for John Gliha.
j.gliha
321-747-0264
This is truly amazing, you ought to be nominated for the Darwin award.
Of course I never said that Debt Crisis Solutions is connected with FDRS. Mr. Gliha, do you have an IQ above room temperature?
I wrote:
“It’s the EXACT same scam as FDRS.”
And you seem to confirm that. You wrote:
“This scam, FDRS, has been illegally selling plagiarized versions of John Gliha’s copyrighted and trademarked work, …”
Ok, you agree FDRS is a scam. You state FDRS plagiarized the copyrighted and trademarked John Gliha work.
Consequently, the John Gliha “work” is a scam. And, everything on the John Gliha website confirms it.
I would really enjoy having you or the scammers at Debt Crisis Solution sue me.
I’ll even waive service after I received notification of any defamatory statements by fax to 571-222-1000.
Only FALSE statements are defamation.
It is my intention to put scammers OUT OF BUSINESS through the publication of TRUE statements.
I do not accept any notices submitted at my websites because I cannot confirm the identity of the sender.
Are you “John Gliha”, the NEXT scammer on this list of most deplorable thugs specializing in deceiving and defrauding people who are just too gullible?
Do you always talk about yourself in the 3rd person?
Thanks for posting. You confirmed that putting individual scammers out of business is like playing whack-a-mole — you just can’t win. You put one scammer out of business and at least one new one pops up.
I sure hope that the Alex Jones listeners find my posts about Debt Crisis Solutions BEFORE they send them what little money they have.
And I hope that EVENTUALLY I’ll be living among people who simply will not tolerate scammers like you.
You can defraud each other. I simply don’t want to have to deal with the likes of you anymore.
I’m hoping for a split of the US in several parts and maybe one part will want to put all the scammers in prison. I know it’s unrealistic to expect a society with NO scammers, but I’d like to see something like a minimum of 5 years in prison for everyone like Mark Cella and that includes the people who he stole the “copyrighted” technique to defraud from.
That’s Trado’s ultimate goal, to establish a new system with a zero tolerance for scams.
I’d like to see a FINE for EACH lie by a business to a consumer. Recording without permission is not only permitted, but encouraged. I’m big on privacy, except when it comes to fraud and scams.
$100 per lie and the employees are PERSONALLY liable. Just like debt collectors, but with CUMULATIVE and MINIMUM statutory damages. Consumers submit their claims online to the AG along with the proof (recording, letter, sworn affidavit) and then they get their check, unless the business has no assets and the company is shut down.
Just like that. Pretty much the same way people get parking or traffic tickets.
Okay, I can see you have the mind of a child, I will document comments from prospects, quantify the damage and have my attorney take the appropriate legal action against you for being stupid.
If any of you reading this want to know more, hear the real deal, please just call me. Thanks.
j.gliha
321-747-0264
All SUCKERS please immediately call j. gliha to hear more about the “real deal.”
And then send him all your money so that you can join the ranks of “victims.”
In case you’re wondering why I’m allowing scammers to advertise here:
I can’t prevent that people get ripped off when they read the scammers’ lies at THEIR websites, the regulators are NOT doing their jobs.
And, Mr. Gliha could have posted something to prove that he is not scamming. Of course he didn’t provide any useful info, because he has none. So he resorts to lame legal threats.
If you found my sites and read about the FDRS scam and you still want to give your money away, you certainly deserve everything you’ve got coming in addition to an award for stupidity.
And, of course I’m hoping that some readers will call Gliha and RECORD the calls (it’s legal in many states without notifying him of recording) and send me the recording for analysis.
I started a new forum just for this type of “FDRS” scam at http://trado.info/forum/396.
Mr. Gliha, please do not post here or at any of my other sites including Trado.
Please also do not call me again. As you know, I published your voice mail at Trado.
Dear Christine,
I have called you yesterday (1-29-09) and left a message telling you that you are associating my small business (which functions by using laws that protect people’s property, bank accounts, and paychecks) with a truly fraudulent company, FDRS?
You never returned my call, nor have you even contacted my company to confirm your suspicions and conduct a reasonable investigation prior to posting your opinions.
The reason debtcrisissolutions.com or topscore.com does not have an address is because I did not want people to think we’re serving only a “local” area, since we work with the entire nation. In addition, we are openly registered with yellowpages.com where our address can be easily found. This is one of the first things we did when we opened our business.
About being a scam, I don’t blame you for thinking so, I would too if I was scammed. But it’s not fair, honest or legal to post defamatory information about other companies just because you have a personal vendetta or hate for this type of business. We did not cause your problems nor did we know who you are until we saw you wrongly accusing us.
If we are a scam, prove to the readers how my company (Top Score Enterprises, LLC) scammed you please.
If you claim there are others who were scammed by us, let them show one simple thing to first establish they even did business with us: The Top Score Enterprises Contract.
You provide no specific proof madam, and I would kindly ask you to please investigate us directly, and not simply base your opinions on the fact that we don’t have an address on our website or we sound “similar” to FDRS.
You are the first person complaining about our company, however we have never done any business with you, nor have you contacted us, nor have you returned a call from me.
Currently, you are preventing people from having access to true information from our company by misleading them.
WHO YOU ARE REALLY HURTING BY THIS:
1).People who’s accounts are being frozen by court orders by the creditors and collectors.
2).People who are stuck paying debts with no way out.
3).People who are loosing their homes due to foreclosures.
4). People who’s paychecks are garnished.
5). People who’s credit history is ruined and they cannot even get approved for apartment or car.
These people are the one’s you’re really hurting by giving them erroneous information about our company!
Ron Paul has many haters and people who misunderstand and misrepresent him, but that does not change his principles, nor does that make him a bad man.
I urge you to reconsider to stop hating or accusing those who did you no wrong. Do onto others as you would have done onto you. And if you want to be treated fairly, please do so and give us the same respect.
Sincerely,
Igor M.
Mr. M.:
Please read my post above to your buddy John Gliha. How dimwitted can you be? You RESPONDED to that post!
You offer to help people and you can’t even read and follow these simple instructions?
Do NOT post here or at any of my sites again.
Do NOT call me again.
For the mentally challenged like Mr. M., I’ll post the instructions one more time:
Please submit your notice of any false statement(s) of fact and the URL(s) via fax to 571-222-1000.
Mr. M., one more thing, please also fax the contract you mentioned in your post so that I can investigate your claims.
I, unfortunately, too was an FDRS client until last week when I had to fax, call, email and call again just to get them to agree to cancel my account.
When I called to cancel my account I told the person on the phone I need to speak with someone to do so. Appearently the idiot forgot to hang up the phone and I heard him say “Some guy just called to cancel his account and I told him I was putting him on hold and just hung up on him.” I then heard a girl say, “Oh really…did he call back?” The man replied, “No, he didnt call back” and then something mumbled then I heard him mocking me!! So I called back and told him what a moron he was and that I heard everything he said and told him to transfer me to someone NOW!! I was really pissed of and told them to cancel my account. These people are rediculous and I hope they are dealt with to the fullest….all of them.
What I want to know is how do I go about getting my money back?? Do I need a lawyer or do I just sit and wait for a settlement. Is there anything I can do to help put these people away?? Please contact me and let me know here or at my email Mad_chatter_69@hotmail.com.
Thanks for the great site!! Someone needed to expose these people!!
Jake
Ohio
A good start would be posting your AG complaint and the status.
I obviously don’t know whether you need a lawyer, only YOU know how good you are in court.
“Someone needed to expose these people!”
They’ve been exposed for quite some time now. Anyone STILL signing up for ANY of these scam definitely didn’t do their due diligence.
Sitting and waiting is always good, you don’t expend any energy
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON JAMES MARTINEZ(COURT MEDIATION SERVICES).
BRAD DAILEY(COURT MEDIATION SERVICES.
CREDIT SECRETS BIBLE.
Hello,
I have contacted http://www.debtcrisissolutions.com to investigate the claims stated in this blog and found out they are in no way connected with FDRS. They were able to explain to me the logic behind their process and showed proof. The president is a caring man and spoke to me for over 30 minutes.
I am now able to protect my home and paycheck from creditor lawsuits, which is a blessing to me because I have 2 creditors who refused my previous attorney settlement arrangements and want to sue.
I don’t know what FDRS did, but I never take opinions for truth, please do your research before you mislead other people.
Christine…I also found out that you’re in the debt consolidation business giving “Trado” loans to people? How do you get out of debt by borrowing more money? Sounds like something’s wrong.
Take care,
Jenn
Hi Jenn,
What are you doing in Germany?
IP Information – 80.237.152.53
IP address: 80.237.152.53
Reverse DNS: ds80-237-152-53.dedicated.hosteurope.de.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Verified]
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That’s really odd. You posted through a German connection. If you’re in Germany, there’s no need for you to worry about debts in America.
Let’s start with proof of your utmost ignorance:
“Christine…I also found out that you’re in the debt consolidation business giving “Trado” loans to people? How do you get out of debt by borrowing more money? Sounds like something’s wrong”
Are you brain dead? Is your IQ above 40?
http://trado.info/faq
How do you get out of debt by giving your dollars to Debt Crisis Solutions?
I’ve asked for proof and I got NOTHING.
In fact, I asked for a fax with any false statements about Debt Crisis Solutions at any of my sites and I got NOTHING.
They threatened to sue me, but they did NOT.
See http://trado.info/content/debt-crisis-solutions-another-ted-anderson-gcn-alex-jones-promoted-fraud
NEXT: Fair warning
It is quite likely that you are getting paid by these thugs to advertise them or you are somehow related to this fraud.
I am preparing the documentation for my public complaint to the FTC and other regulators about Debt Crisis Solutions.
I will supply the IP # of anyone like Jenn who is apparently on their payroll. I doubt that ANYONE, no matter WHAT your IQ, could be stupid enough to read my research and still waste one dime on them.
You are subjecting yourself to criminal prosecution for racketeering when you participate in a documented fraud like Debt Crisis Solutions and John Gliha’s scam.
Don’t do it. Just say NO to fraud.
just reading over all the blogs to make the best decision for our family. seems like christine can only back up her side by calling people names and asking what their iq is. when asked to show proof of someone she knows or herself that was scammed by debt crisis solutions, all she can come up with is don’t call me again. is there anyone out there that has been helped by d.c.s. or has been frauded by them that can tell there story along with jenny?
Canon, did you hear that they also turn lead into gold?
All you need to do is pay them for 18 months and in the end, your lead will be GOLD!
I find it really hard to believe that after reading all the PROOF here anyone would be stupid enough to even consider this fraud.
But then again, just look at America, I suppose it could be true.
A SUCKER born every second!
BTW, nobody needs my permission to throw away their money and DESTROY their own family.
Have fun!
I had missed the 3/28 comment:
“BIG DADDY
Mar 28th, 2009 at 12:57 pm Edit
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON JAMES MARTINEZ(COURT MEDIATION SERVICES).
BRAD DAILEY(COURT MEDIATION SERVICES.
CREDIT SECRETS BIBLE.”
I know that the Credit Secrets Bible is a scam. Get their desperate spam all the time.
Another clueless idiot desperately trying to make a buck off the not the bright.
Here’s a review of Court Mediation at http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/235/RipOff0235669.htm
Most Americans are so incredibly STUPID and HELPLESS, it’s beyond belief.
I’m going to work in my garden now. I can’t take the stupidity anymore.
Nearly all of the 200 million adult Americans are dumb as rocks or corrupt or both.
I am still looking for any information on James Martinez, who seems to be an agent for Court Mediation Services. His website is vague and outdated with no address listed anywhere. Has anyone tried this debt elimination and if so, what was/is the result? Any information to this effect would be greatly appreciated!
How about reading this site?
Hi Christine,
I am really looking for information on the John Gihla approach to protecting my assets and not really the debt elimination. Can you offer any other alternative to their model of protecting assets. I am repaying all that I can and working as hard as I can to repay debt as I see that as the true way out of my situation. However, I may lose some property as a loss of work has made it very difficult to repay everything. I just want to make sure that I get to keep my main home and am therefore looking for asset protection. Any ideas?
Andy
I am a single mother of 2 daughters and on unemployment and i was scammed by this company FDRS. I completed all my payments for 18 months and now my creditors are calling looking for there money and 1 company has already filed a sue in the city of New Orleans. Please someone tell me what to do because I have no clue!!!!!!!!!!!!
Found this site through infowars and read all the comments. I must admit that I’m ignorant to all this debt consolidation racket but I would like to chime in. We live in a (supposed) free society with the ability to contract whenever we want. The upside is that makes us free, the downside is desperate people get burned. If you are dumb enough to sign a contract with a company without fully understanding it then you deserve what you get. The only way to stop scams is to be informed.
You’re the kind of person that makes me think that the United States has to split up into several countries.
One for people like you, where you kill each other and only the strongest survive.
One for people like me, where we treat each other with respect and lies and fraud are NOT tolerated.
And then a few with policies in between.
When a blind person drops a $20 bill, will you pick it up and give it back?
Will you pick it up and give him a $1 bill?
You’re the ruthless kind. You’ll keep the $20, feeling so superior because the blind guy isn’t “informed.”
I often get frustrated with people who make NO effort to educate themselves, sit around drinking beer and watching ball games instead of getting a clue.
But, that gives NOBODY the right to lie to them and to defraud them.
I guarantee you that one day, you will be the victim. You will be defrauded, and you’ll be crying for help and sympathy.
Hopefully you’ll remember your post and realize that you got what you deserve.
I called in and listened and spoke to John Gliha. I feel he has much knowledge and understanding of corporate law and corporation structure. Yes, when it sounds to good to be true, it makes one worry. I am so confused at this point, even after speaking to 4 lawyers each one said something different. Who can one trust these days? What are the laws for the consumers? Are there any success stores for getting out of debt and if so, what company? Any suggestions? I have to make a logical desicion soon.
According to Igor he ask Christine to have others who were scammed by Debt Crisis Solutions to provide proof such as a Top Score Contract;
Igor wrote:
If you claim there are others who were scammed by us, let them show one simple thing to first establish they even did business with us: The Top Score Enterprises Contract
Christine wrote:
Mr. M., one more thing, please also fax the contract you mentioned in your post so that I can investigate your claims.
Then there is the issue of telling someone not to post here again or call.
There are those who are brave behind the keyboard and the unwillingness to confront the person makes this site very suspect.
You made the accusation Christine therefore the burden of proof is on you!
Websites that resort to insults should always be suspect.
One has to wonder if the owners of this website work for the Credit Card Companies!
Here is the proof:
http://liarsandcheats.info/fdrs-mark-cella-debt-elimination-fraud/submit-your-damages/
Thank you Christine for your links and especially the last link. The FDRS boiler room scam was informative. Of special interest was the statement from the attorney general in California, saying she was dropping the case since the company wasn’t responding! Is that attorney general high? Wouldn’t the attorney general have access to police officers who could arrest FDRS? It sounds like FDRS was conducting business with the approval of, at least, the California state government, if not the U.S. Government. Also, thank you for your comments about Alex Jones’ products. I recently subscribed to his prison planet. After listening to his shows, I agree the economy is bad. Yet I don’t actually see the extensive effects Alex Jones and his guests talk about. I live in a college town. I went here and did not graduate. I stayed and eventually got a job at the local Post Office. There have been new apartments built in town, wherein the rent is about 500 to 600 per month per person, and these large apartment complexes are booked almost completely solid. And the cars the students drive are almost brand new. When I attended here, I had a full MAP grant plus a Perkins grant and I worked on campus for 20 hours a week, and I could not afford the apartments the students live in now. If the economy is as bad as Alex Jones and his guests claim, where is the money coming from to pay rent or the cars they drive. Student loans wouldn’t explain it. If parents were in the dire, financial straits claimed by Alex Jones, they wouldn’t be able to help their children. Once again, thank you Christine for opening my eyes.
You’re very welcome.
Some clarifications:
Gayle Weller is NOT the AG, just an employee, one of the “investigators.”
I am going to send my public complaint to AG Jerry Brown (running for Cal. governor) and I do believe that his office is liable for the FDRS victims’ damages because as you mentioned, they CONDONED this fraud.
Regarding Alex Jones, I haven’t listened to his show in a long time and very rarely visit his sites anymore.
Everything is SPIN and he’s just like the people he complains about. His movies are good, but his show is just way over the top.
However, the economy IS very bad. Since you’re in a college town, it may not be so bad. You also didn’t mention what STATE you’re in and that can make a HUGE difference.
The only reason the economy has not totally collapsed is because of welfare, food stamps and unemployment.
And the students driving these nice cars and renting these expensive apartments either DO have student loans or they have rich parents.
I’ve had MANY clients whose lives were destroyed by student loans and I predict that there will be MANY more as there are few jobs for graduates.
Consider yourself very lucky that you had a grant and now have a secure job. But don’t be surprised if you have to take pay cuts OR your cost of living increases substantially.
The crooks and scammers have totally taken over.
The people who CLAIM to fight corruption are as corrupt as the crooks and scammers.
And there are no solutions to the many problems in America and most of the industrialized nations.
I’m in Illinois, I have relatives in Chicago, and they tell me how bad the housing market is, yet I do not see the effects of the economy touted by newspeople and rumor. I agree with the article you cited. I hear how bad things are in the newspapers, and I hear people talking about how bad it is, but I don’t specifically see the effects. The university is SIUC and it is not an Ivy League School or anything close to it. The university administration would like the students to believe it is in order to justify the continually, increasing tuition and fees. When I left in 2001, about 5/9 of the students had close to full grants and loans, but we were limited by justification to what we could borrow. I had never known a student who could justify a request to cover the amount it costs to live in one of these 3 to 4 person apartments. It is not 550 to 600 per apartment divided by 3 or 4 people, rather it is 550 to 600 for rent for each occupant, not including utilities or phone. If only some students had rich parents, then these many new apartment buildings would be at low occupancy, yet they are close to full occupancy. Four new complexes have an average occupancy of 800 people each. And there are two others with about 600 student occupancies each. With a couple of smaller refurbished apartments, the total comes out to at least a quarter of the full-time student population. That is too many rich parents for a school which historically has had few rich students. I last attended SIUC in 2001, and a much smaller percentage of the student populace could afford this many nice vehicles and this quality of housing. I also have a relative in northwest Indiana, and there are no foreclosures listed anywhere in this sizeable Chicagoland suburb. Yet it might not be relevant as there are a couple of gated communities in it. In December, SIUC had said it was owed 150 million by the state of Illinois, and they might have to close in Mid-March. You know what didn’t happen? The university didn’t get most of the money. The university didn’t have to fire or furlough employees, and the university did not close. In May 2010, the university says it is owed over 200 million from Illinois, and hopes the payment deadline is extended for 5 months which should be December, or else the university loses right to the money owed. I am not disagreeing with you about the economy, and I gave up trying to show other people the effects. I could quote news print and newschannel reports, but I could not give any specific proof with my own eyewitness accounts. I have seen stores close in town, only to have larger ones open sometime later. Christine, I believe, as you do, the economy is sliding downward. Yet without proof from where I live or visit, I just looked like a doomsday crazy person. Even with the Post Office in dire straits and preparing to make some unwise decisions, at least 1/2 of the veteran employees think I’m crazy for thinking it is a bad situation. I hope to turn other people on to your website, as I feel it might save them the cost of misery and the loss of their money.
Erik, it’s good to see that the economy IS doing so much better in your area.
My closest town is Kingman AZ and yes, the BIG stores are doing great:
Wal-Mart, Home Depot and Staples.
Some personal experiences in MY business:
Very FEW people are interested in improving their credit scores to buy a house.
MOST readers are interested in eliminating their debt.
Just look at the Google ads the various blogs at http://liarsandcheats.info/
So many ads are for DEBT ELIMINATION.
It’s a HUGE business and EXTREMELY profitable even when the companies aren’t 100% scam like FDRS. Yesterday I called on an ad claiming that there is a federal debt relief act. A total lie and the company knew it. They claimed that they did not place the ads. So why would someone ELSE pay the $10 or so per CLICK on these ads? They get a HUGE commission!
I should start a documentary about THAT fraud, but my day has only 24 hours.
Look how FEW people have a few dollars to spare for donations:
http://liarsandcheats.info/support/
The last donation was on 4/22/10 (and it included the free CreditFactors subscription)
The all-time Google ad income at Liars and Cheats EXPOSED is about $70, below the $100 minimum to get paid.
I just spent MANY hours on another fraud documentary:
Fairfax Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery attorneys Cawthorn and Picard’s Illegal Collection Practices
My client paid $300 to get a partial refund and finally have the fraudulent judgment reported as satisfied and then I worked at least 15 hours on the new fraud blog — at no pay.
I hope that the bad publicity will teach the dentists a lesson and maybe I can talk my client into submitting complaints to regulator about the collection lawyers (more unpaid work for me.)
I can’t possibly solve all of America’s problems by myself and of course never expected to.
I had hoped that OTHERS would start documenting frauds and TAKE ACTION.
And I don’t see that happening.