Comments on: Debt Crisis Solutions STILL advertised on Alex Jones show and what happened to fdrs.org?

By: Christine

Christine — Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:22:49 +0000

Erik, it’s good to see that the economy IS doing so much better in your area.

My closest town is Kingman AZ and yes, the BIG stores are doing great:

Wal-Mart, Home Depot and Staples.

Some personal experiences in MY business:

MOST readers are interested in eliminating their debt.

Just look at the Google ads the various blogs at http://liarsandcheats.info/

So many ads are for DEBT ELIMINATION.

It’s a HUGE business and EXTREMELY profitable even when the companies aren’t 100% scam like FDRS. Yesterday I called on an ad claiming that there is a federal debt relief act. A total lie and the company knew it. They claimed that they did not place the ads. So why would someone ELSE pay the $10 or so per CLICK on these ads? They get a HUGE commission!

I should start a documentary about THAT fraud, but my day has only 24 hours.

Look how FEW people have a few dollars to spare for donations:

http://liarsandcheats.info/support/

The last donation was on 4/22/10 (and it included the free CreditFactors subscription)

The all-time Google ad income at Liars and Cheats EXPOSED is about $70, below the $100 minimum to get paid.

I just spent MANY hours on another fraud documentary:

Fairfax Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery attorneys Cawthorn and Picard’s Illegal Collection Practices

My client paid $300 to get a partial refund and finally have the fraudulent judgment reported as satisfied and then I worked at least 15 hours on the new fraud blog — at no pay.

I hope that the bad publicity will teach the dentists a lesson and maybe I can talk my client into submitting complaints to regulator about the collection lawyers (more unpaid work for me.)

I can’t possibly solve all of America’s problems by myself and of course never expected to.

I had hoped that OTHERS would start documenting frauds and TAKE ACTION.

And I don’t see that happening.

By: Erik Novack

Erik Novack — Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:37:27 +0000

I’m in Illinois, I have relatives in Chicago, and they tell me how bad the housing market is, yet I do not see the effects of the economy touted by newspeople and rumor. I agree with the article you cited. I hear how bad things are in the newspapers, and I hear people talking about how bad it is, but I don’t specifically see the effects. The university is SIUC and it is not an Ivy League School or anything close to it. The university administration would like the students to believe it is in order to justify the continually, increasing tuition and fees. When I left in 2001, about 5/9 of the students had close to full grants and loans, but we were limited by justification to what we could borrow. I had never known a student who could justify a request to cover the amount it costs to live in one of these 3 to 4 person apartments. It is not 550 to 600 per apartment divided by 3 or 4 people, rather it is 550 to 600 for rent for each occupant, not including utilities or phone. If only some students had rich parents, then these many new apartment buildings would be at low occupancy, yet they are close to full occupancy. Four new complexes have an average occupancy of 800 people each. And there are two others with about 600 student occupancies each. With a couple of smaller refurbished apartments, the total comes out to at least a quarter of the full-time student population. That is too many rich parents for a school which historically has had few rich students. I last attended SIUC in 2001, and a much smaller percentage of the student populace could afford this many nice vehicles and this quality of housing. I also have a relative in northwest Indiana, and there are no foreclosures listed anywhere in this sizeable Chicagoland suburb. Yet it might not be relevant as there are a couple of gated communities in it. In December, SIUC had said it was owed 150 million by the state of Illinois, and they might have to close in Mid-March. You know what didn’t happen? The university didn’t get most of the money. The university didn’t have to fire or furlough employees, and the university did not close. In May 2010, the university says it is owed over 200 million from Illinois, and hopes the payment deadline is extended for 5 months which should be December, or else the university loses right to the money owed. I am not disagreeing with you about the economy, and I gave up trying to show other people the effects. I could quote news print and newschannel reports, but I could not give any specific proof with my own eyewitness accounts. I have seen stores close in town, only to have larger ones open sometime later. Christine, I believe, as you do, the economy is sliding downward. Yet without proof from where I live or visit, I just looked like a doomsday crazy person. Even with the Post Office in dire straits and preparing to make some unwise decisions, at least 1/2 of the veteran employees think I’m crazy for thinking it is a bad situation. I hope to turn other people on to your website, as I feel it might save them the cost of misery and the loss of their money.

By: Christine

Christine — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 03:57:19 +0000

You’re very welcome.

Some clarifications:

Gayle Weller is NOT the AG, just an employee, one of the “investigators.”

I am going to send my public complaint to AG Jerry Brown (running for Cal. governor) and I do believe that his office is liable for the FDRS victims’ damages because as you mentioned, they CONDONED this fraud.

Regarding Alex Jones, I haven’t listened to his show in a long time and very rarely visit his sites anymore.

Everything is SPIN and he’s just like the people he complains about. His movies are good, but his show is just way over the top.

However, the economy IS very bad. Since you’re in a college town, it may not be so bad. You also didn’t mention what STATE you’re in and that can make a HUGE difference.

The only reason the economy has not totally collapsed is because of welfare, food stamps and unemployment.

Food-stamp tally nears 40 million, sets record

WASHINGTON — The number of Americans receiving food stamps in March topped 40 million for the first time as the jobless rate hovered near a 26-year high.

Recipients of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program subsidies for food purchases totaled 40.2 million, up 21 percent from a year earlier and 1.2 percent more than in February, the Department of Agriculture said yesterday in a statement on its website. The number of recipients has set records for 16 straight months.

…

And the students driving these nice cars and renting these expensive apartments either DO have student loans or they have rich parents.

I’ve had MANY clients whose lives were destroyed by student loans and I predict that there will be MANY more as there are few jobs for graduates.

Consider yourself very lucky that you had a grant and now have a secure job. But don’t be surprised if you have to take pay cuts OR your cost of living increases substantially.

The crooks and scammers have totally taken over.

The people who CLAIM to fight corruption are as corrupt as the crooks and scammers.

And there are no solutions to the many problems in America and most of the industrialized nations.

By: Erik Novack

Erik Novack — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:21:02 +0000

Thank you Christine for your links and especially the last link. The FDRS boiler room scam was informative. Of special interest was the statement from the attorney general in California, saying she was dropping the case since the company wasn’t responding! Is that attorney general high? Wouldn’t the attorney general have access to police officers who could arrest FDRS? It sounds like FDRS was conducting business with the approval of, at least, the California state government, if not the U.S. Government. Also, thank you for your comments about Alex Jones’ products. I recently subscribed to his prison planet. After listening to his shows, I agree the economy is bad. Yet I don’t actually see the extensive effects Alex Jones and his guests talk about. I live in a college town. I went here and did not graduate. I stayed and eventually got a job at the local Post Office. There have been new apartments built in town, wherein the rent is about 500 to 600 per month per person, and these large apartment complexes are booked almost completely solid. And the cars the students drive are almost brand new. When I attended here, I had a full MAP grant plus a Perkins grant and I worked on campus for 20 hours a week, and I could not afford the apartments the students live in now. If the economy is as bad as Alex Jones and his guests claim, where is the money coming from to pay rent or the cars they drive. Student loans wouldn’t explain it. If parents were in the dire, financial straits claimed by Alex Jones, they wouldn’t be able to help their children. Once again, thank you Christine for opening my eyes.

By: Christine

Christine — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:37:46 +0000

Here is the proof:

http://liarsandcheats.info/fdrs-mark-cella-debt-elimination-fraud/submit-your-damages/

By: SJ Lewis

SJ Lewis — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:57:07 +0000

According to Igor he ask Christine to have others who were scammed by Debt Crisis Solutions to provide proof such as a Top Score Contract;

Igor wrote:
If you claim there are others who were scammed by us, let them show one simple thing to first establish they even did business with us: The Top Score Enterprises Contract

Christine wrote:
Mr. M., one more thing, please also fax the contract you mentioned in your post so that I can investigate your claims.

Then there is the issue of telling someone not to post here again or call.

There are those who are brave behind the keyboard and the unwillingness to confront the person makes this site very suspect.

You made the accusation Christine therefore the burden of proof is on you!

Websites that resort to insults should always be suspect.

One has to wonder if the owners of this website work for the Credit Card Companies!

By: Lee

Lee — Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:40:12 +0000

I called in and listened and spoke to John Gliha. I feel he has much knowledge and understanding of corporate law and corporation structure. Yes, when it sounds to good to be true, it makes one worry. I am so confused at this point, even after speaking to 4 lawyers each one said something different. Who can one trust these days? What are the laws for the consumers? Are there any success stores for getting out of debt and if so, what company? Any suggestions? I have to make a logical desicion soon.

By: Christine

Christine — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:16:28 +0000

You’re the kind of person that makes me think that the United States has to split up into several countries.

One for people like you, where you kill each other and only the strongest survive.

One for people like me, where we treat each other with respect and lies and fraud are NOT tolerated.

And then a few with policies in between.

When a blind person drops a $20 bill, will you pick it up and give it back?

Will you pick it up and give him a $1 bill?

You’re the ruthless kind. You’ll keep the $20, feeling so superior because the blind guy isn’t “informed.”

I often get frustrated with people who make NO effort to educate themselves, sit around drinking beer and watching ball games instead of getting a clue.

But, that gives NOBODY the right to lie to them and to defraud them.

I guarantee you that one day, you will be the victim. You will be defrauded, and you’ll be crying for help and sympathy.

Hopefully you’ll remember your post and realize that you got what you deserve.

By: greengum

greengum — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:07:31 +0000

Found this site through infowars and read all the comments. I must admit that I’m ignorant to all this debt consolidation racket but I would like to chime in. We live in a (supposed) free society with the ability to contract whenever we want. The upside is that makes us free, the downside is desperate people get burned. If you are dumb enough to sign a contract with a company without fully understanding it then you deserve what you get. The only way to stop scams is to be informed.

By: ivette ortiz

ivette ortiz — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:47:33 +0000

I am a single mother of 2 daughters and on unemployment and i was scammed by this company FDRS. I completed all my payments for 18 months and now my creditors are calling looking for there money and 1 company has already filed a sue in the city of New Orleans. Please someone tell me what to do because I have no clue!!!!!!!!!!!!